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Tuesday, March 27, 2012
Questions.............
This Sunday we are dealing with the subject of Suicide and I need some help.
If you could ask any question about Suicide, what would you ask?
There was a time that my question about suicide was "how can people be so selfish?" I just couldn't imagine that anything could be so bad that someone could end it and not consider all the devastation and heart ache they left behind. And then something happened to me that shook me to the core and left me sobbing and I realized the role satan plays in all this, the depth of his hatred, and his consuming focus of destroying anything and everyone...his slimy ability to speak to and control people...even though, at that time, I was walking closely and taking constantly with God, in the depth of my despair another voice came through, totally unexpected... I see suicide totally different now and pray for all those feeling this way to know God and His love that will never leave nor forsake them... and for us to be very vigilant for those around us that are hurting, even the saved.. and let them know how much they mean to us and God.
These other comments are very interesting and reminds me that there was a time, long ago, that I remember being told (from some church) that suicide was THE unpardonable sin for saved people... because it was the one thing you could do that you could not ask forgiveness for afterward... I remember believing that as a youngster...how much pain has that lie caused those left behind..
I've lost one brother in law and a sister in law (who came here from Maryland to kill herself)and almost lost my son to suicide. It breaks my heart that people feel such despair to do/try suicide. When I heard of the 34 year old man who went to church (not ours) on Sunday and looked content, and shot himself on Wednesday, it broke my heart. I asked God to not take that feeling from me, but let me remember. I would hate for someone to attend our church and not know God's love, or ours, not see the hope. Such despair, such hopelessness, that you think its the only thing left to do, breaks my heart. How can we reach these people before they do something? What does that kind of despair and hopelessness look like>
What is the best thing one person can do that will help or prevent another person from committing suicide (particularly if it isn't apparent that is what is going on)?
I lost an ex sister in law to suicide and it absolutely broke my heart and I often thought what makes a person contemplate such a thing, she left a son 2 young daughters and her grand daughters who meant so much to her. I didnt understand until this last summer when I spoke with my younger sister that a person sometimes goes to a very dark place due to lifes circumstances, she has often heard me talk of hope and my life with Jesus, and knowing mine and James life in the past she has seen evidence of lives changed, she has yet to accept Christ as her savior. She has lost all hope, Once a beautiful full of life young lady who had what I thought everything, lost a husband to an accident, was left to raise her daughters on her own, she never dealt with her greif or her pain properly therefore could not deal with her daughters pain properly, just when she thought her life was taken a turn for happiness she lost a fiance which put her over the edge, again not dealing with her pain she turned to meth, and cutting, got mixed up with a bad man, lost her home, job, everything she had including a relationship with her daughters, the list goes on but she told me she felt that her life was cursed, she felt she had no reason to live, caring about anything pretty much was gone,when you feel such despair you can only feel that taking your life is the only better option then dealing with the ongoing pain, right now shes in jail, and Im actually thankful for I dont worry about what shes doing and I know shes safe, sick huh? but I myself have cried out to God begging for her soul in prayer, crying my eyes out for her and telling satan he cant have her, I pray because she knows what Christ has done in the lives of my family that she will get tired of her life and come to us for help or reach out to someone else for help, I feel hopeless in not knowing what else to do but let her live her life, My question is what else can I do that I havent allready done to help her, except have faith in the power of prayer, sometimes I feel Im just waitng for that phone call
By praying and having faith in the incredible power of prayer you ARE doing the most powerful, miraculous, darkness-defeating thing you could ever do for her. There is nothing more you can do except share this with us so we can add our prayers to yours! And you got it girl! Know that God had heard and is working! I want to share something with you Thursday night and pray with you! LOVE YOU!
thank you carol for last night, I would like you to go to my sisters facebook profile picture i will send you info on fb message, i want you to look at her profile and put a face with a name so you know who your praying for, shes real as real her addiction and when you see her before and after picture you will see what im talking about, I love her with all my heart and Im standing on those very words you spoke last night, thanks for the encouragement. SJ
There is a young lady that attended our church who attempted suicide. Her first attempt was at age 11. But because of this church and because of Jesus, on her last attempt she called on him and he saved her. She is saved but has not fully developed a relationship with him. she has experienced alot of violence ane come from a home of addiction and abuse. Right now she is hurting from addiction, alot of shame and self-abuse. But she wants to come to the Liberty on Easter so please be praying for her.
Having tried to commit suicide myself, and losing friends to suicide, my biggest question would be what happens after a person commits suicide. Is each person judged solely on their sole action or by their over all life's work.
What does the bible say happens to people who commit suicide? Do they go to hell for being so hopeless with this world? What if they were saved?
ReplyDeleteThere was a time that my question about suicide was "how can people be so selfish?" I just couldn't imagine that anything could be so bad that someone could end it and not consider all the devastation and heart ache they left behind. And then something happened to me that shook me to the core and left me sobbing and I realized the role satan plays in all this, the depth of his hatred, and his consuming focus of destroying anything and everyone...his slimy ability to speak to and control people...even though, at that time, I was walking closely and taking constantly with God, in the depth of my despair another voice came through, totally unexpected... I see suicide totally different now and pray for all those feeling this way to know God and His love that will never leave nor forsake them... and for us to be very vigilant for those around us that are hurting, even the saved.. and let them know how much they mean to us and God.
ReplyDeleteI always wonder if God really rejects the souls of people that commit suicide. That's what Catholic's believe but why do they believe that?
ReplyDeleteThese other comments are very interesting and reminds me that there was a time, long ago, that I remember being told (from some church) that suicide was THE unpardonable sin for saved people... because it was the one thing you could do that you could not ask forgiveness for afterward... I remember believing that as a youngster...how much pain has that lie caused those left behind..
ReplyDeleteI've lost one brother in law and a sister in law (who came here from Maryland to kill herself)and almost lost my son to suicide. It breaks my heart that people feel such despair to do/try suicide. When I heard of the 34 year old man who went to church (not ours) on Sunday and looked content, and shot himself on Wednesday, it broke my heart. I asked God to not take that feeling from me, but let me remember. I would hate for someone to attend our church and not know God's love, or ours, not see the hope. Such despair, such hopelessness, that you think its the only thing left to do, breaks my heart. How can we reach these people before they do something? What does that kind of despair and hopelessness look like>
ReplyDeletedid we do enuph!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat is the best thing one person can do that will help or prevent another person from committing suicide (particularly if it isn't apparent that is what is going on)?
ReplyDeleteI lost an ex sister in law to suicide and it absolutely broke my heart and I often thought what makes a person contemplate such a thing, she left a son 2 young daughters and her grand daughters who meant so much to her. I didnt understand until this last summer when I spoke with my younger sister that a person sometimes goes to a very dark place due to lifes circumstances, she has often heard me talk of hope and my life with Jesus, and knowing mine and James life in the past she has seen evidence of lives changed, she has yet to accept Christ as her savior. She has lost all hope, Once a beautiful full of life young lady who had what I thought everything, lost a husband to an accident, was left to raise her daughters on her own, she never dealt with her greif or her pain properly therefore could not deal with her daughters pain properly, just when she thought her life was taken a turn for happiness she lost a fiance which put her over the edge, again not dealing with her pain she turned to meth, and cutting, got mixed up with a bad man, lost her home, job, everything she had including a relationship with her daughters, the list goes on but she told me she felt that her life was cursed, she felt she had no reason to live, caring about anything pretty much was gone,when you feel such despair you can only feel that taking your life is the only better option then dealing with the ongoing pain, right now shes in jail, and Im actually thankful for I dont worry about what shes doing and I know shes safe, sick huh? but I myself have cried out to God begging for her soul in prayer, crying my eyes out for her and telling satan he cant have her, I pray because she knows what Christ has done in the lives of my family that she will get tired of her life and come to us for help or reach out to someone else for help, I feel hopeless in not knowing what else to do but let her live her life, My question is what else can I do that I havent allready done to help her, except have faith in the power of prayer, sometimes I feel Im just waitng for that phone call
ReplyDeleteBy praying and having faith in the incredible power of prayer you ARE doing the most powerful, miraculous, darkness-defeating thing you could ever do for her. There is nothing more you can do except share this with us so we can add our prayers to yours! And you got it girl! Know that God had heard and is working! I want to share something with you Thursday night and pray with you! LOVE YOU!
DeleteThank you!and love you too!
Deletethank you carol for last night, I would like you to go to my sisters facebook profile picture i will send you info on fb message, i want you to look at her profile and put a face with a name so you know who your praying for, shes real as real her addiction and when you see her before and after picture you will see what im talking about, I love her with all my heart and Im standing on those very words you spoke last night, thanks for the encouragement. SJ
DeleteThere is a young lady that attended our church who attempted suicide. Her first attempt was at age 11. But because of this church and because of Jesus, on her last attempt she called on him and he saved her. She is saved but has not fully developed a relationship with him. she has experienced alot of violence ane come from a home of addiction and abuse. Right now she is hurting from addiction, alot of shame and self-abuse. But she wants to come to the Liberty on Easter so please be praying for her.
ReplyDeleteHaving tried to commit suicide myself, and losing friends to suicide, my biggest question would be what happens after a person commits suicide. Is each person judged solely on their sole action or by their over all life's work.
ReplyDeleteAndy,
ReplyDeleteI would be willing to talk to you about my experiences if you would like to hear them. Debra has my number.
Cindy